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When We (first) sent to them two apostles, they rejected them: But We strengthened them with a third: they said, "Truly, we have been sent on a mission to you."

The (people) said: "Ye are only men like ourselves; and ((God)) Most Gracious sends no sort of revelation: ye do nothing but lie."

They said: "Our Lord doth know that we have been sent on a mission to you:
"And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message."

The (people) said: "for us, we augur an evil omen from you: if ye desist not, we will certainly stone you. And a grievous punishment indeed will be inflicted on you by us."
They said: "Your evil omens are with yourselves: (deem ye this an evil omen). If ye are admonished? Nay, but ye are a people transgressing all bounds!"

Then there came running, from the farthest part of the City, a man, saying, "O my people! Obey the apostles:

"Obey those who ask no reward of you (for themselves), and who have themselves received Guidance.

"It would not be reasonable in me if I did not serve Him Who created me, and to Whom ye shall (all) be brought back.

"Shall I take (other) gods besides Him? If ((God)) Most Gracious should intend some adversity for me, of no use whatever will be their intercession for me, nor can they deliver me.

"I would indeed, if I were to do so, be in manifest Error.

"For me, I have faith in the Lord of you (all): listen, then, to me!"

It was said: "Enter thou the Garden." He said: "Ah me! Would that my People knew (what I know)!

"For that my Lord has granted me Forgiveness and has enrolled me among those held in honour!"

And We sent not down against his People, after him, any hosts from heaven, nor was it needful for Us so to do.

It was no more than a single mighty Blast, and behold! they were (like ashes) quenched and silent.

Ah! Alas for (My) Servants! There comes not an apostle to them but they mock him!
See they not how many generations before them we destroyed? Not to them will they return:

But each one of them all - will be brought before Us (for judgment).




They killed their prophet. Final punishment overtook them for killing their prophet. Sometimes i wonder why God would send such innocent beings like Joseph Smith & David Koresh to a rebellious satanic nation like the Americans. Turns out, as i read the Koran, that by killing their prophets, the americans finalized their doom. They shall be one of the perished nations, because they killed their prophets and spread sinful satanic materialism on earth. It is just a question of when. Muslims say that Jesus himself will kill them, when he returns (if they still don't accept him and rebel against him trying to kill him and his followers). Truth or myth, we will never know. However, americans are cunts and their doom is finalized by God.











  





In Revelation 17 the angel showed John who the Harlot was, Babylon the Great, the Roman Catholic Church.  And Revelation 18 continues the narrative about her judgment.

Revelation 18:1-2 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Babylon is the code word for Rome.  John couldn’t come out and say that Rome would be judged and destroyed, as that would have invited more persecution.

From Charles Haddon Spurgeon’s Verse Expositions of the Bible
May the Spirit of God take away the veil from our eyes while we read what was revealed to the beloved apostle John! Here we have the prophecy of the destruction of the great anti-Christian system of Babylon, which, being interpreted, is and can be none other than the apostate church of Rome.

We have no difficulty in knowing to what city this great Babylon refers, for the Church of Rome, in the plenitude of its wisdom, has taken the title to itself in attempting to claim that Peter was the first bishop of Rome. They quote the text, “The church that is in Babylon saluteth thee” that church, they say, being the church in Rome. Therefore, Rome is Babylon. Beside, the whole of the eighteenth chapter gives such a description as can only apply to her, and she must, and shall, come to her end.
By the Catholic theologians own words, they proclaimed that Babylon pointed to Rome.
Sylvester J. Hunter, a Jesuit, in his “Outline of Dogmatic Theology” (Vol I, p. 410) said: “There is no room for doubt that by the Babylon of the Apocalypse is meant the city of Rome. And down to the time of the Reformation it was the unanimous judgment of all writers… that the Babylon of St. Peter’s Epistle is the same Rome.”
Cardinal Baronius, who lived from 1538-1607, said: “By Babylon is to be understood Rome.” “Rome is signified by Babylon; it is confessed of all.” (“Annals,” sec xvi, p. 344)
Cardinal Bellarmine, who was an Italian Jesuit and a Cardinal of the Catholic Church, and one of the most important figures in the Counter-Reformation, said; “John, in the Apocalypse, calls Rome Babylon.” (“De Rom. Pont..” c. iii, 2, Preterea, Tome I, p 232, Colon 1615)
Cardinal Newman, who was originally an evangelical Oxford academic and priest in the Church of England, before he joined the church of Rome, described the city of Rome as “a doomed city,” “amid the obscurities of the fearful Apocalypse.”
Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

The kings of the earth have become wealthy because they have served Rome well in stealing, killing and destroying, those in their domain; to bring them under the power of the Vatican.

Revelation 18:4-6 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.  Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
Her primary influence is the 1.2 billion Catholics who revere (mark on their forehead) and obey (mark on their hand) the Pope.
But the secondary influence is all of the Harlot Churches which the Vatican controls, including most Protestant Churches.
In the 4th century, the Roman Bishops and Emperor Constantine created the cult of Roman Christianity, and there was a great Falling Away from the faith.  And much of what they declared in the 4th century is still followed by Protestants today, including:
Using the Greek name of Jesus, instead of the Hebrew name of Yahusha, which means Yahuah, the Father, Saves.
Celebrating pagan-based holy-days, such as Easter and Christmas; instead of the Father’s seven Holy Feast Days, which Messiah is fulfilling to redeem His bride.
Worshiping on SUNday, instead of the 7th day Sabbath, and I am not referring to Saturday.
Friend, you should have nothing to do with the teachings of the Popes of Rome. You can read about the great Falling Away of the 4th century @ http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/the-falling-away/
Revelation 18:7-8 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

The judgments against the Harlot Roman Catholic Church will come quickly.

Revelation 18:9-10 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,  Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

It’s interesting that they say “Alas… thy judgment come” indicating that they knew that she was evil and that she would be judged.

Revelation 18:11-15 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:  The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,  And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.  And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.  The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

All trade is made through their city-state of London, which controls all of the world’s trading markets.  When it is destroyed, all trading stops worldwide.

Notice that it says  “and slaves, and souls of men” as the City of London controls human trafficking, sex slaves, but more so, corporate slaves.  Every person is just a number, a personal corporation to them, which they buy and sell and make profits on.

Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

Once again this is pointing to the city where they are dressed in purple and scarlet, and the city is arrayed in gold, precious stones and pearls.  None other than the Vatican in Rome.

Revelation 18:17-19 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,  And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!  And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
It doesn’t have to be the physical goods going in and out of the deep sea ports (though the City of London is on the water and in John’s day it had a great sea port).
The world’s financial markets are centered in the City of London, where all these goods are traded.
Over 500 banks have offices in the City of London, and it is an established leader in trading in Eurobonds, foreign exchange, energy futures and global insurance. It is the world’s greatest foreign exchange market and they control/manipulate the price of gold/silver.
When it is destroyed, it will shut down commerce for the kings of the earth and they will weep and mourn.
Revelation 18:20-21 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

This recalls the vision in Daniel 2, where the uncut stone will be thrown at the feet of the statue, which represent the Roman Catholic Church and her Mohammedan army, to destroy it.

Revelation 18:22-24 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.  And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

The word sorceries here to the various political arts, state tricks, counterfeit miracles, and deceptive maneuvers of every kind.
Countless false flags have caused/justified military actions against countries with the Jesuits sought to control.
9/11 was instigated by the Jesuits through their CIA and MOSSAD intelligence agencies, to justify to invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, which lead to their leaders being removed, their wealth stolen, and them getting a Jesuit-Rothchild central bank, so that the Jesuits control their money supply.


Is America, the most dominant and influential nation of the end times, really not found in Bible prophecy as most Christians are told? If that doesn’t sound right to you, then you are not alone. There is no better, plain and literal fulfillment of Jeremiah's and Revelation's Daughter / Mystery Babylon than America whether you compare it to Saudi Arabia, Mecca, the Vatican, Rome, Iraq or anywhere else. Except...how can God judge a nation who does so much good and not judge so many arguably worse nations like China or Iran? How can Babylon be a nation when it says it’s a “city?” Where is the blood of slain prophets “found in her?” These common objections and more are answered...plus why you never need to fear being trapped or unaware in America when she is about to be burned.

Babylon = Babylon. “Mystery” Babylon = ?

If you ask most Christians where America is in end times Bible prophecy, they will either say that they have no idea or that they were taught that America is not there. When you think about it, this is a reasonable position since the Bible seemingly can only talk about cities and nations in the Middle East such as Damascus, Nineveh, Egypt and Babylon. How could the prophets possibly be talking about some Western nation when they constantly use names of places we already know of in the Middle East?
For example, Babylon is Babylon, still in Iraq to this day. However, what if such a familiar place were embellished in a prophecy with a modifier to subtly clue you in that it was not really literally that place? Further, what if the prophecy went on to describe distinct characteristics of this place that did not match the Biblical location under the same base name? Of course, what I have in mind when I say all this is this prophecy:
Revelation 17:5 (KJV) — And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 17:5 (HCSB) — On her forehead a cryptic name was written: BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE VILE THINGS OF THE EARTH.
Babylon is Babylon, but what about “mystery Babylon” (KJV)? Or as modern versions render it, “a cryptic name...Babylon the Great?” Mystery/cryptic Babylon must refer to something else or there is no mystery. Further, how can you reasonably describe Babylon, Iraq today as “great,” especially after Iraq has been defeated twice in recent decades by the American-led coalition and occupied by the same?

60 Characteristics of Mystery Babylon

That Mystery Babylon does not refer to Iraq is borne out very well when you look at all the details found in Revelation 17-18 and the parallel prophecies such as Jeremiah 50-51. There are dozens and dozens of details about Mystery Babylon found in those chapters.
Thankfully, a researcher by the name of Rick Coombes has put together a book of his research on these prophecies, called America the Babylon. If you want a brief summary of the points in his book, see his "60 reasons" article. You can also watch a video presentation of America the Babylon:
Just a little of the evidence he presents is enough to rule out all of the commonly believed interpretations of Mystery Babylon like Iraq, Rome, Mecca, Saudi Arabia, the Vatican, or even Jerusalem.

Proof #1: Deep Sea Water Port

For example, the prophecies indicate that Mystery Babylon is a major port city with a deep sea water port:
Revelation 18:17-19 (HCSB) — 17 for in a single hour such fabulous wealth was destroyed! And every shipmaster, seafarer, the sailors, and all who do business by sea, stood far off 18 as they watched the smoke from her burning and kept crying out: “Who is like the great city?” 19 They threw dust on their heads and kept crying out, weeping, and mourning: Woe, woe, the great city, where all those who have ships on the sea became rich from her wealth, for in a single hour she was destroyed.
Coombe's book explains this passage:
This passage tells us that merchant ships are standing off the shoreline of Babylon. These ships have either just unloaded in the port city of Mystery Babylon, or are waiting to dock when the fiery judgment hits. These ship captains, crew and passengers are witnesses to the destruction. Question? Why would these folks be standing on deck of merchant ships unless there were Port facilities in this city? Answer. The city is a port city. In this day and age, especially by virtue of the list of commodities that are traded in "mystery Babylon"… see Revelation 18:11-13… one thing can be noted… this city, to have this kind of merchandise coming in by ships…must be a DEEP WATER SEAPORT CITY. Why? For ships of today to bring such merchandise requires the ships to be large commercial freighters. These ships require deep-water port facilities to dock and unload/load. They must have a harbor with large depths. Now here is the problem for the "Rome = Babylon" theorists. Rome is NOT a deep water seaport, period!!! Ancient Rome, we are told must be the only literal interpretation. However, Ancient Rome was not a Seaport either. Rome is landlocked.
Although Rome is indicated by Coombes, his argument would also apply to the Vatican (inside Rome), Jerusalem, and Babylon, Iraq. All are without sea ports and do not fit the description of Mystery Babylon the Great as a great commercial center accessible from the sea by ships.

Proof #2: Top Financial/Military Power

Other famous candidate cities that may be port cities like Dubai are still ruled out by the details of Mystery Babylon's great military and financial power over all the kings of the earth (Rev 17:18, 9; Rev 18:18). Bear in mind that whoever Babylon is, its sudden disappearance is devastating to the world economy to the point that no one buys the merchants' goods anymore (Rev 18:11).
America is the chief economic power of the world. The greatest importer and (infamously) consumer of goods and resources in the world per capita. It has the reserve currency of the world. More on that below in Objection #1.

Proof #3: Babylon Must Have A Recognizable Mother Country

Perhaps the strongest proof of all is how Jeremiah calls Babylon "Daughter Babylon" with mention of her "mother."
Jeremiah 50:12 (HCSB) — your mother will be utterly humiliated; she who bore you will be put to shame. Look! She will lag behind all the nations— a dry land, a wilderness, an Arabah.

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Of course, unlike all the other countries named above, America has a clearly recognizable mother country. (Which is the answer to the question I had as a little boy when I was told we spoke English: "Why do we speak this 'English' and not 'American?'" =) ).
Yes, Great Britain is the "Mother Babylon" of Jeremiah 50:12 which "Daughter Babylon" came from. Great Britain will watch as her closest and most powerful ally is destroyed in a single day, a single hour. (Putin boasted once that he could destroy America in half that time.)

Proof #4: National Symbols of US and UK in Daniel 7

Both countries are also pictured in Daniel 7 before and after America's destruction:
Daniel 7:4 (HCSB) — The first [beast] was like a lion but had eagle’s wings. I continued watching until its wings were torn off. It was lifted up from the ground, set on its feet like a man, and given a human mind.
Winged Lion of Babylon

America's symbol is the eagle. Great Britain's national symbol is the lion. A lion whose eagle's wings are plucked literally pictures the destruction of America since eagle's wings cannot survive without the body, but the lion body can and does survive. In fact, the same beast reappears later in Revelation with the lion still there and the other three beasts of Daniel 7, but no more trace of the eagle. It's dead and gone; destroyed. After that the UK is transformed, "elevated" and given a new "mind." This pictures how the Antichrist takes over the UK first and then the rest of the world, after destroying America with the help of the Ten Rulers (Rev 17:12, 16-17).

Common Objections

The information about Mystery Babylon is exhaustive. However, because the prophecy is so long and complicated, it is easy to find a verse that does not make sense or seem to fit America at first glance. Here are the most common objections that people seem to raise against this explanation of Babylon the Great:

Objection #1 — “Babylon Is a Religious/Political/Economic System”

Some think that Babylon is a “religious or political or economic system” that we need to “come out of,” such as the Vatican, the headquarters of the Catholic Church could be seen as. The following verse about what happens after Babylon falls could be used to argue that it is more than just a city or nation but must be a global system:
Revelation 18:11 (HCSB) — The merchants of the earth will also weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their merchandise any longer
Why would no one buy the merchants' goods anymore if it is just America that goes away and not a “global system?” It's not hard to explain this. When America is gone, the US dollar will no longer have backing, becoming worthless paper. Keep in mind that the US dollar is a main reserve currency of the world. If all these dollars most nations are holding suddenly lost their value overnight, it would turn the financial order upside down, causing a panic and a sure global economic collapse.
Under those conditions, naturally no one will be buying the luxury goods that the merchants are getting rich on. They will be ruined (along with everyone else fighting to survive the ensuing chaos). The global financial collapse will make the Great Recession and Great Depression look like the good old days.

Turning Mystery Babylon into a global system of whatever kind is simply unnecessary to make sense of the prophecy literally. It also creates many more problems than it solves. It requires you to ignore dozens of plain passages that specify a nation from which people will physically have to move out of before literal fire falls there. Notice how many times it says this:
Revelation 18:4 (HCSB) — Then I heard another voice from heaven: Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or receive any of her plagues.
Jer 50:5 — They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to God in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
Jer 50:28 — The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of God our God, the vengeance of his temple.
Jer 51:6Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of God's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
Jer 51:49-50 — 49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth. 50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember God afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
Renouncing a "global system" does not protect you when fire is falling on your head. Just ask the people who lived in Sodom and Gomorrah—which Babylon's destruction is compared to (Jer 50:40). Lot had to physically leave Sodom to be safe from that fiery judgment. If Lot had stayed in Sodom to witness to the Sodomites, he would have been a crisp for disobeying instructions, no matter how righteous he was. The righteous will also be physically fleeing Babylon in the future, just as Lot physically fled Sodom.

By the way, don't overlook that all the saints of all other nations will be leaving home at the same time that American saints flee the USA. For one things, Wormwood comes right on the heels of WWIII so, wherever you are as a saint, you need to be where God is going to protect you from it.  A second reason for this (as if you needed one) is that when the global economy crashes from the vaporization of the nation printing and backing the US dollar, you don't want to be anywhere but where God has said he will provide for and feed the saints.

Objection #2 — “Babylon Is A City, Not A Nation”

By far the most common objection I hear about America being Babylon comes from a fixation on how it is described as a city by Revelation no less than seven times. For example, this verse calls it a city twice:
Revelation 18:10 (HCSB) — They will stand far off in fear of her torment, saying: Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the mighty city! For in a single hour your judgment has come.
How do we answer this? Well, first read another one of the “city” verses and notice what the city has:
Revelation 17:18 (HCSB) — And the woman you saw is the great city that has an empire over the kings of the earth.”
Could a mere city rule the world today without a large, powerful country behind it? Of course, not. As it turns out, other details point to Babylon as a chief city of a “nation” (Jer 50:12) with farmland (Jer 50:16), and other cities (Jer 50:32; 51:43).

Then why does Revelation call it a city? It seems to be using a common convention in both ancient and modern times to refer to a nation by its chief city. The media today often uses Moscow or Washington to refer to Russia or the USA, respectively.

Shouldn't the prophecy refer to Washington, then? Washington may be America's capital, but New York City is America's biggest and most important city for commerce, finance, advertising, etc. It is not so strange that a prophecy about America identifies her by commonly known characteristics of her greatest and most famous city.

Objection #3 — “America Does Too Much Good / Other Nations Are Far Worse”

America is a Christian nation full of churches and Bibles. It sends out more Bibles and missionaries into the world than any other nation. It shares its wealth in the form of aid to the world. It hosts the United Nations. With all these good works, how could it be that God is going to judge her so harshly?
Further, how can this happen when there are so many other nations that by comparison are so much more deserving of God's wrath? Look at the dictatorships in the Middle East that have gassed and slaughtered their own people. Or how China represses her citizens and encourages the genocide of many girls under the one-child policy. Certainly if God is going to judge America for her sins, he would have to judge these nations first, no?

But that is human reasoning and judgment. God uses different criteria than we do. There is a key principle that guides God's judgment which must be considered if we are to understand how America could be judged before all these other nations. Jesus expressed it well:
Luke 12:47-48 — 47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
You could call this the principle of accountability. God judges people and nations individually based on their unique situation. He holds them accountable for their actions based on what they have been given in wisdom and wealth. This is the only fair way. If a nation collectively “knows better” through their rich Christian, Bible-literate heritage but does not act accordingly, then a severer judgment is reserved for them than a contemporary nation that does wickedness but has not been given the same advantages.

In other words, the fact that America has this Christian heritage (leading to most homes having a Bible) is a liability if America as a whole does not adhere to the values taught by the legions of Bible teachers found in the land. Russia, China and every other communist or Islamic nation keep out the Bible and persecute all Christians that try to proselytize. Israel was similarly held accountable for having the oracles of God delivered to her by “angels” and prophets. This is the reason ancient Israel was judged and virtually eradicated from remembrance as a nation until 1948.

Revelation 18 talks about Babylon heavily influencing the rest of the world to sin and live for luxury (Rev 18:3, 9). She deceives them into doing this with her “sorcery” (Rev 18:23). It is hard to appreciate how global America's wicked influence is until you live overseas as I have. Everywhere you go, American culture is desired and imported. The violent, sexual and immoral themes of American TV, movies, music, pornography reached nearly everywhere, even before the Internet America invented, which has now only made it worse. America is imitated like no other nation and this brings wrath on America (Rev 18:3, Lk 17:1).

When you consider how much this ugly scenario is the opposite of how a Christian nation should be influencing the world, then you can understand why God says he will judge America for her wickedness and depravity.

Objection #4 — Missing Merchandise: Slaves, Chariots, Ivory, etc.

Another type of objection comes from the list of goods that end time Babylon trades:
Rev 18:11 — And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thy wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
For the ancient world, this list represents “every luxury the heart could desire” as the New American Commentary characterizes it. But when some look at this list of ancient luxuries they have trouble matching it up with modern American goods. You would be hard pressed to find a trade in “chariots” today anywhere, but you will find their modern equivalent of automobiles, airplanes, trains and even bicycles traded heavily in America. It seems reasonable to concede that the ancient prophets would have no concepts or words for such modern inventions and would be given the word chariots and horses to cover modern transportation goods.

Often it is pointed to that certain products have nothing to do with America or are not made there. For example, America is not known for precious woods as, say, Africa is. Many other goods on the list are not common today either. The point to remember here is that it does not say that the goods are made in Babylon, but rather that they are imported or traded by her. America is well known as the greatest importer and consumer of fine goods in the world. Through the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX), Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME), and other commodities, futures and stock exchanges, America is a leader in the trade and marketing of such goods. America does not have to produce the goods listed to fulfill the prophecy, she only has to trade them.

But some will say that not all the goods listed there are traded. Although there were slaves in the past, that was abolished 150 years ago, so it does not describe end time America. Ivory trade is also banned by the US since 1990, so how could that fit America when she falls as Babylon? It can fit—if we leave behind our law-abiding mindset for a minute and consider the real world. America, like all nations, has modern day slavery. There is human trafficking for sexual exploitation and forced labor, despite the laws against it. If you follow the news regularly, you will occasionally read the tales of survivors or those who owned slaves. Similarly, ivory trade may be illegal, but there is the black market for this, in the US, too.

Objection #5 — "How Does America 'Sit On Seven Mountains?'"

This verse about Babylon causes many to stumble in regards to America:
Revelation 17:9 (KJV) — And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

From this verse almost alone, people claim that Babylon is Rome because Rome is the "city on seven hills." The problem with that is the Greek word for hill (buonos) is not used here, but the word commonly translated mountain (oros) is.

The seven heads of the beast represent seven mountains and also seven kings (Rev. 17:9-10). The woman is Babylon (Rev. 17:5) The woman (Babylon) sits on the seven mountains or literally reigns over them. What are these mountains?

In a macro sense, continents are mountains. The earth is full of mountains and canyons under the sea and only the large masses that push out of the water are continents. Importantly, there are seven continents to the earth (North and South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, and Antarctica). This mirrors how the woman sits on many waters/nations (Rev 17:1,15) and "reigns over the kings of the earth" (Rev 17:18) as the seven continents encompass the entire earth.

America's dominant military and financial power gives her a global hegemony or rule through influence and threat of force. The nations that dare defy or threaten America get unilaterally invaded or have their funding or resources cut off. The power exerted by the dollar is immeasurable. If you doubt America's control of the world that Babylon is said to have, again, it's important to think outside the box of the official stories and legal channels and consider what happens that the politicians cover-up. A good book to start with in this regard is Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

Objection #6 — “Slaughtered Prophets and Saints” in America?

The Bible's very last verses on the complete destruction of Babylon are quite profound and perplexing. They speak of what will not be found there again (namely any sign of life or human activity) and what will be found instead:
Revelation 18:23-24 (HCSB) — 23 the light of a lamp will never shine in you again; and the voice of a groom and bride will never be heard in you again. ⌊All this will happen⌋ because your merchants were the nobility of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery, 24 and the blood of prophets and saints, and of all those slaughtered on earth, was found in you.
Given America's history and reputation as the place of religious freedom and a destination for those (like the Puritans) fleeing religious persecution, this verse seems like an epic fail for America as Babylon. Certainly, this objection is the most difficult to explain and understand. But it can be answered with an overlooked and obscure statement from Jesus.

When speaking to the Pharisees, Jesus set a strange precedent that makes this blood guilt for America possible in God's eyes:
Matthew 23:34-35 (HCSB) — 34 This is why I am sending you prophets, sages, and scribes. Some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will flog in your synagogues and hound from town to town. 35 So all the righteous blood shed on the earth will be charged to you, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.
In other words, in the reckoning of God, all that is needed is for one prophet or apostle to be killed in America for the blood of all the prophets and saints to be blamed on or found in America. Who can say that has not happened in America's history already or will not happen in the future to one of the prophets God must be sending to warn the people to leave the nation (Rev 18:4)?

Conclusion – Don't Leave Yet and Don't Worry

Despite objections based on misunderstandings of certain passages, the overwhelming evidence best fits America as the dominant end time nation of Mystery Babylon the Great. As such, the sad truth is that America will one day be destroyed through fire, probably at the hands of enemy nations in the same way that God judged and exiled Israel and Judah. This is an upsetting and even depressing realization for most of us, but it is fair according to how God judges those who have been “given much.”

The only good news about this prophecy is that we are assured that God plans to call out the righteous before the destruction happens. However, I cannot stress enough that nobody needs to leave the USA early, now that they know about America's destruction in prophecy and the command in the prophecy to “come out of her.” To do so now would probably be a mistake for most people given how much harder it is for Americans to make a living and get by outside their home country.

We must realize that the prophecy of a command to flee is not the same as a command to flee for all Bible readers in America. The prophecy does not include how to know when to flee or where to flee to exactly. However, when the "come out of her" prophecy is being fulfilled, someone will come to convey what that “voice from heaven” in the prophecy says before the destruction happens so people can hear and obey. We have such end time prophets and messengers of God predicted in several passages (Rev 7:1-8=Rev 14:1-7; Mal 4:5-6). These messengers, like Elijah, must tell us all the missing details at that time, including how to get the help most of us will need in order to accomplish such a disruptive and costly undertaking.

As I always say, if God could get millions of slaves out of Egypt in the exodus (and have them paid back wages in the process), then God's poor, faithful servants today have nothing to worry about. Just be ready to listen and obey (in faith) when the time comes and you will get the help you need. And if you doubt your faith (or even if you don't!), follow Jesus' command to be on your guard against lack of watchfulness (read: apathy) and pray daily for the strength to escape all these things "(Lk 21:36).


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