Artificial wombs will turn straight men gay because women suck
Makin’ babies
Yes, it’s time for another episode of The Comments I Don’t Let Through. This time, it’s a guy calling himself DownWithWomen, commenting on my post about the lonely incel who wants a nice woman to pay attention to him — while at the same time he openly advertises his belief that women “deserve the rope.” That is, a good hanging.
DownWithWomen, by contrast, thinks that men won’t have to kill women, because women will kill themselves once the men of the world discover how awful they really are. The catalyst? Artificial wombs.
When artificial wombs are invented men won’t even have to do it, women will rope themselves as their sexual market value plus power that comes alongside it is completely destroyed.Yet another creepy dude obsessed with (cis) women’s fertility.
But then the argument takes a somewhat unexpected turn:
[W]hen [women] start to diminish men will most likely find it viable to cross the x-y line in order to flock to cute-boys to settle down with, and marry whom don’t have the hypergamous instinct of biological females.Incels and MGTOWs often joke about turning themselves gay in order to avoid the dreaded girl germs, but this guy is serious — if a little confused as to how sexual orientation actually works.
As soon as [artificial wombs] are invented we don’t have to put up with the bullshit of women anymore, cute-boys are more feminine than western females and always eager to please/available for sex to a partner.Hate to tell you this dude, but I’m pretty sure the twinks of the world aren’t going to want to have sex with you either.
They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.Wait, your argument is that straight guys will turn to twinks because, hey, you can just rape them with impunity?
Rape laws protect men too, you piece of shit.
The commenter then trots out the sad old argument that women only want macho “bad boys.”
Even if one marries a nice-guy he will only get used for his money, while she will continue to sleep around with the alpha male bad boys. The beta male nice guy will be forced to pour his resources into raising his child, which should be the responsibility of the other man and not him.Never mind that this is not actually how the world works, and that the guys making this argument have zero proof that women routinely cheat on “betas” with “alphas” and use their allegedly superior sperm to make babies that the betas think are their own.
Women are biologically hypergamous, will always date and marry up, and even if in a relationship, a woman will immediately leave the man for a higher guy if she thinks she can land him.And men sometimes leave women when they think they could “do better.” There’s no evidence that women are less loyal partners than men.
Women also sexually desire men who have a violent criminal record(Especially murder/assault/robbery/drugs/gangs being the top most “hot”) and wear tattoos/piercings on them. The jerks and badboys half of which being criminals, sometimes fresh out of prison/jail or bullies in school are straightforward about their sexual intentions; and masculine enough to press for it.Well, first off, this is a giant pile of bullshit. And second, DUDE YOU JUST BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE OK FOR YOU TO RAPE GAY MEN.
You’re one of the “bad boys” you’re lambasting women for dating. Except even creepier.
But hey, thanks for sharing, I guess.
UPDATE: DownWithWomen has sent along an update of sorts:
We are talking about fem-boys you idiot. To sum things up here is a post from the 8chan /cuteboys/ section: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0R9eccUgEoHAs far as I can tell the board is devoted to young, femme gay men and crossdressers.
Fact is they are more of women than you, some claim to be straight but can be seduced still. They don’t complain often, and if they do try to cause an issue out of nowhere the gynocentric court won’t take them seriously.So, doubling down on the rapey shit.
Women are not logical by biology, and 30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males.This is not of course true. The 30% number gets bandied about because there was some study somewhere that found 30% of the time when the husband was concerned enough to demand a paternity test it turned out to not be his child.
For reference, male and female betas are representative of what are, in this universe, cis males and females. Therefore, a male beta has a penis, external testicles, and an anus, while a female beta has a clitoris, a vulva and vagina, ovaries, a uterus, and an anus.
Can we develop an artificial uterus inside the anus for gay men to get pregnant through anal penetration/orgasms?
The only anatomical difference between male alphas and male betas is that male alphas have at the base of their penis a bulbus glandis, which expands during intercourse, locking the alpha inside of their partner. The bulbus glandis is colloquially referred to as the “knot”. Female omegas are anatomically identical to female betas, but are very different hormonally.
Female alphas and male omegas are the most alien to us, as they each have two sets of reproductive organs: both “male” and “female” organs are present. Female alphas have an enlarged clitoris that functions as a bulbus glandis (with no further phallic material distal to the knot structure), internal testicles, a vulva, and an anus. Urine is expelled through a urethra separate from the clitoral urethra, which is used solely to conduct semen. In female alphas, the uterus is underdeveloped and the testicles are much larger than the ovaries.
Male omegas do have a penis and testicles, but they are small and often incorrectly referred to as “vestigial”. Their testicles rarely descend fully, and generally settle just caudal to the inguinal canal. Instead of an anus or vulva, male omegas possess a cloaca, which then subdivides into the vaginal and rectal canals. Both the vaginal canal and the rectal canal have a valve which prevents them from opening at the same time. In male omegas, it is the testicles and “male” organs that are underdeveloped, rather than the uterus and ovaries. Both urine and semen are expelled through the urethra in the penis.
(Note: A knot is a swelling at the base of the penis or within the clitoris that locks the penis or clitoris inside of the vagina or cloaca during and after orgasm, to increase chances of conception. Alphas do not always knot, except when with an omega in heat when rut compels them. Knotting sessions can last anywhere from 15 minutes to, in extreme cases, an hour, though they average at 30 minutes.)
Ejaculation, Orgasm, and Autolubrication
Male alphas’ orgasms are almost exclusively ejaculatory, and last from 30-60 seconds. Typical volume of semen ejaculated in a single orgasm is about 25mL. Female alphas’ orgasms are likewise mostly ejaculatory, though slightly less so than those of male alphas. Orgasms last from 30-60 seconds, with ejaculation occurring the entire time. The typical volume of semen ejaculated is about 20mL.
Male betas’ orgasms are generally ejaculatory, and last about 5 seconds. Typical ejaculation volume is 5mL. Female betas’ orgasms generally last around 15 seconds, and are for obvious reasons never produce semen.
Male omegas’ orgasms are ejaculatory about 50% of the time, and generally last about 30 seconds. When ejaculation occurs, semen volume is generally about 0.1mL, though it can be as high as 0.5mL. During estrus, semen production halts entirely and all orgasms are “dry”. Female omegas’ orgasms last about 30 seconds, and likewise produce no semen.
Although they do possess a vagina, female alphas only self-lubricate when hyperaroused or with extended contact to an omega in heat. Female betas, however, do self-lubricate when aroused, but generally require some artificial lubrication as well for comfortable penetration. Male and female omegas both self-lubricate when aroused and rarely require artificial lubrication.
Manifestation
Manifestation is essentially puberty, during which an individual’s secondary gender begins to affect them biologically and induces the production of hormones and pheromones.
Omegas tend to manifest slightly later than alphas, around 15 or 16. Alphas tend to manifest around 14 or 15. The change is marked by increased pheromone production and sensitivity, and omega manifestation is often heralded by their first heat, though not necessarily. Beta manifestation is often mistaken for no manifestation at all, as it is much more subtle and is often only noticed by the betas themselves, as they become more sensitive to the scents of those around them. Registration of sex is required within a week (or, for omegas, six weeks) of manifestation.
Only male/female sex is identifiable at birth. However, under special circumstances pediatricians can use magnetic resonance imaging to differentiate between males, as male alphas will have a premature knot structure within the normal shape of the penis, and male omegas’ “anuses” are actually partial cloacae and are subdivided just past the opening into separate vaginal and rectal tracts. Female alphas can also be differentiated from female betas and omegas, as they have internal testicles which are easily visible on an MRI slightly anterior to and medial of the ovaries. However, female betas and female omegas cannot be reliably differentiated between until puberty, when female betas begin menstruation and female omegas begin their estrous cycle. This procedure is undertaken almost exclusively for health-related concerns, as it is fairly expensive.
Pheromones
Alphas and omegas tend to significantly produce and instinctually react to pheromones. Beta pheromones have been described as comparatively “bland”, or, alternatively, “soothing”. Alphas tend to find omega scents attractive, and vice versa. Alphas will sometimes feel threatened when they scent another alpha during a stressful situation, and react violently. Alphas are also instinctually attracted to the pheromones omegas produce while in estrus, and competition for the privilege to mate can sometimes become violent. Furthermore, if there is extensive contact with an omega in estrus proper, the majority of alphas will go into rut, which increases their mating drive for the duration of contact with the omega and generally several hours after contact ceases. However, rut does not affect alphas as much as estrus does omegas, and rut is never an excuse for forcing oneself on an omega, though it was a legitimate legal defense until 1997. Omegas in estrus proper almost always crave alpha pheromones, but if they feel threatened or stressed they tend to shy away from alphas and seek the company of other omegas, and sometimes betas. There are very few cases of rape perpetrated by an omega in estrus, as they become very weak during estrus proper, but there are a few, mostly upon physically disabled alphas.
Alphas produce large quantities of androstenone, which creates a dominant, intimidating, aggressive aura. Less aggressive alphas, who tend to make better mates, produce more androsterone, which produces a dominant aura without the aggressiveness. When in rut, alpha production of androstenone goes into overdrive.
Betas’ primary pheromone is androstenol, which induces friendly behavior. They tend to produce more alpha-androstenol in the presence of other betas, and beta-androstenol in the presence of alphas and omegas.
Omegas produce mostly estratetraenol and copulins. During heat, their production of both skyrockets and they become extremely attractive to alphas. Even during the glutton stage, their pheromone levels are rising and more alphas will generally take interest in them.
When in non-sexual situations, omega and beta scents tend to be calming, omega scents in an active sense, acting almost as a sedative, and beta scents in a more passive manner. Alphas can, in special circumstances, infuse their scent with command that weakly compels omegas, and, to a lesser extent, betas, to obey them. This is significantly more effective when used upon distressed omegas or omegas in or nearing estrus; when applied to other alphas, it generally invokes hostility, sometimes leading to violence.
When a mating bite occurs, the omega’s bonding gland, which is located in the superior trapezius, releases a spike of oxytocin into the omega’s blood, triggering release of vasopressin in the alpha. Omegas will also produce n-undecane in the presence of other alphas when pair-bonded, warning the other alphas off and making them smell “claimed”. Presence of the alpha during the omega’s heat is required to maintain a mating bond; if the alpha is absent and the omega suffers an unsuppressed heat, with or without another partner, the pheromonal bond will fade away and the omega will no longer smell claimed. Other alphas will likely make advances.
(Note: Although omega attraction to alpha pheromones and alpha attraction to omega pheromones are very common, it is important to remember that they are not universal and that homosexual and asexual alphas and omegas, as well as betas, do exist.)
Scenting
Pheromones are produced mainly by scent glands on the wrists, neck, cheeks, and, for omegas, genitals. In claiming a mate, therefore, alphas will generally rub their face and hands on the face and neck of their chosen omega, as an additional warning to other alphas that this omega is claimed. Omegas scent mark their alphas as well, though this tends to be more subtle; usually they accomplish this through less specific physical contact, such as hugging or cuddling. However, not all scent marking is necessarily sexual. Families and good friends tend to scent mark each other as well, but as the pheromone production incited by the presence of family and platonic friends is entirely different from that incited by the presence of a potential or claimed mate, the scent transferred differs greatly from that transferred by scent marking from a mate.
Estrus
Estrus occurs only in omegas, male and female (beta females have a menstrual cycle). It occurs twice a year, generally once in fall and once in spring, though if the omega is under significant mental or physical stress they will often skip one or more heats. There are four stages of estrus: the weight-gaining or “glutton” stage, which lasts about one month and during which omegas eat constantly to gain fat for their upcoming trial; the “purging” stage, which lasts from one to three days and during which the omega’s systems clear and prime themselves for reproduction. At the end of stage two the rectal aspect of the cloaca shrinks and the vaginal aspect opens wider, and estrus proper, or “heat” begins, which can last anywhere from eight to fourteen days, and during which the omega is essentially delirious in their instinctual desire to be bred (pain receptors also shut down during this phase). It is common for omegas to display lordosis behavior during estrus proper, especially if they are in the presence of a previously accepted mate. The fourth stage can go two ways. Either the egg is fertilized and the omega’s body proceeds into pregnancy, or the egg is left unfertilized and the endometrium is reabsorbed into the body.
Estrus Options
Omegas going through estrus have three main options: go through heat with another person (usually an alpha), obtain and administer heat suppressants, or go through heat alone.
- Pros of partnered heat: biological imperatives fulfilled, no suppressant side-effects
- Cons of partnered heat: potential STDs and unwanted pregnancies
- Pros of suppressants: heat much more mild (has been described as a “low-level buzz”), no time needed off work/school, no potential for STDs or unwanted pregnancy
- Cons of suppressants: potential side effects (headache, nausea), does not burn off all weight gained during glutton period (can lead to obesity or heart problems), heat tends to last slightly longer, cost
- Pros of heat alone: no potential for STDs or unwanted pregnancy, no drug side effects
- Cons of heat alone: medical professional or family member must care for omega through heat, heat tends to be more extreme than on suppressants or with an alpha, omegas can injure themselves or become severely dehydrated during heat
Suppressants and Birth Control
Altrenogest, C21H26O2, a progestogen, has both suppressant and contraceptive properties. It can be taken orally in its microionized form, or it can be taken as a shot. Possible side effects: weight gain, depression, hair loss, headache, nausea, sore breasts.
The only birth control without suppressant effects is a penetrating-partner injection of immunoglobulin A or G (IgA or IgG).
Menstruation
Female betas ovulate and menstruate once a month. Some female alphas do the same, but they must be exceedingly healthy and unstressed to do so, and they therefore tend to do so only in full adulthood. Omegas, male and female, have an estrous cycle instead of a menstrual one.
Pregnancy
Omegas, beta females, and occasionally alpha females can become pregnant. Pregnancy generally lasts close to 40 weeks. In beta pairs, 3.32% of births produce twins, and 0.137% produce triplets or other multiples. In alpha-omega pairs, however, multiple births are significantly more common. 19.3% of alpha-omega births produce twins (32.4% of children are twins), and 1.25% produce triplets or higher-order multiples.
When pregnant, omegas self-isolate and become very hostile toward everyone but close family and their mate. If approached by a stranger, they will sometimes attack, and if they are in the presence of their mate they will generally cling to and hide behind them, snarling at the potential threat. Alphas also become very protective of pregnant omegas whom they know, especially their mates, and also become hostile toward strangers and anyone who approaches too quickly or comes too close. This is a leading cause of violence among alphas and omegas, as mated pairs will generally attack together, though the omega usually lets the alpha do the majority of the fighting. This is a residual instinct from when alphas who desired an omega who was already mated would sometimes wait for the omega to give birth and then kill the baby, claiming the omega for their own. The most violent of alphas would then proceed to eat the child. This is now extremely rare and highly illegal, but the protective instinct is preserved. Because of this, omegas with children whose alpha has died almost never re-mate until the child is an adult, if at all, despite the fact that the undeniable evidence of their fertility makes them highly desirable. They will, however, sometimes form romantic or sexual unions with betas or other omegas, although these unions are not legally recognized.
Alpha females have narrower hips than beta females and omegas (omega females tend to have very wide hips), so they are more likely to require a Caesarian section than beta and omega females are. In fact, more than 50% of alpha female births are by C-section. However, alpha female hips are wider than alpha and beta male hips, so they can reasonably give vaginal/cloacal birth. Omega male hips tend to be slightly narrower than beta females’, but during pregnancy the pelvic opening widens as the ligaments of the sacroiliac joint loosen significantly, much more than for beta or omega females. Male omegas keep the wider hips after their first pregnancy.
Breasts, Lactation, and Nursing
Male omegas do lactate, but only during and shortly after pregnancy. Their breasts do not remain enlarged as females’ do, and are generally small even when lactation occurs. Beta and omega females lactate as well, and retain the fatty tissue in their breasts. Alpha females never lactate; their breasts are composed entirely of fatty tissue, containing no actual milk-producing glandular tissue, and are generally small, comparable to the size of omega males’ breasts during late pregnancy; most female alphas and pregnant male omegas have AA or A-cup breasts. Omega females have larger breasts, tending toward C to DD-cups. Beta females are average at B or C-cups.
